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Equestria Observations

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Equestria Observations

Postby Mayday » Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:40 pm

Anyway, this is an ongoing effort list of things I like to mention over the year from watching the show and seeing how they were bought into roleplay and a general “best practice after discussing them individually for such a long time! Updated majorly on 2013 June 19 to includes everything I can think of... so far.

If you find yourself having strong discrepancy with this when creating your character or a roleplay, it is advised that you talk to me or a moderator first!

Keep in mind, this is just my impression of the most commonly agreed interpretation, we are perfectly happy to see disagreement and different Interpretation from the show, all you have to do is talk to us! :twilightsmile:

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  1. Cutie Mark :scootangel:
    1. Cutie Mark should not be something they hate. It is something they truly are special about, pretty much for the rest of their life. They probably won't despite it! And since they discover it... they probably know something about it! From the show. "A cutie mark appears on a pony's flank when he or she finds that certain something that makes them different from every other pony." " They're all about finding who you really are and boring stuff like that." "In that moment, it all became clear. I knew right then just who I was supposed to be."... However... "Maybe I got my cutie mark too soon." Show that they might have some doubt... this is not exactly conclusive. It is also very likely that they knowingly enjoys and knows they are good at something isn't good enough unless there are some type of pride in their talent and love of it to triggers a cutie mark.
    2. Cutie Mark does not stands for ability. Just because you have something doesn't mean you will magically become good at it. You might be a natural at something, but practice and learning still requiredRainbow Dash was able to perform the Sonic rainboom before she even raced... probably mean she is just a natural. The part where she discovers this is what she like is something slightly different. Also, Twilight's uncertainty about her talent "True, for ponies whose talents are for things like cooking or singing or math, but what if a unicorn's special talent is magic?" shows us that cutie mark does not necessary directly associates with what the pony is good at.
    3. Cutie Mark are up to interpretation, the bearer of the cutie mark does not necessary know exactly what it means. They might know just some of it, or if it is simple / obvious, all of it.Cheerliee seem to know exactly what her cutie mark means, but Twilight said "What if a unicorn's special talent is magic?" show us that she does not know if her special talent is magic for certain. However, this part is up to debate, she might just be being accurate on a technical level related to the discussion and not directly using herself as an example.
    4. Cutie mark doesn't limit your character to be only good at one thing. It can be more of a "goal for life" thing, not just a "what I am good at" thing. Rarity: Do you really think that writing nasty things and making everypony feel horrible is your destiny?
    5. Cutie mark cannot be hasted, and most likely, cannot be changed.Twilight Sparkle: Told you that not even magic can make a cutie mark appear before its time. // It is true that Twilight did switches the cutiemarks of the mane6 around, but that spell appear somewhat temporary.
    6. Cutie mark pretty much mean that every pony have some magic in them, as they appears magically.
    7. Only Pony has cutiemark. Zebra have some marking that might or might not be cutie mark, but as far as we known, they probably should be monochrome like in the show, using their strips as color and only differs by its shape rather than colour. Obviously, this is just a personal opinion. It might simply be that Zecora's cutiemark just happen to be monochrome, it might not even be a cutiemark at all. Zebra character therefore should try not to focus too much on this part in their roleplay.
    8. Cutie mark, as they are magical, should not be able to be get damaged, and as cutiemark is not the source of your ability, you do not lose it by having it covered, modified, etc.This is as best a guess. We don't actually know it for sure, as it is unlikely a Y7 show will ever show us gory detail.
    9. Pony should not be able to create or change their cutiemark magically on their body easily, it will simply fade away. Best they can do is covering it with clothing or paint over it temporary. Really, just a guess, but as Twilight was unable to keep a magical mark on the same spot probably means that it can't be done magically at the very least. So no pony should be able to change their cutiemark even temporary. They will probably have to hide it. Luna did manage to transform herself into Nighmare Moon, with the Cutiemark colored differently. However, their cutiemark besides coloring is exactly the same. Meaning that this is not impossible, just incredibly difficult.
  2. General Pony stuff :ajsmug:
    1. Earth Pony, Unicorn Pony, Pegasus pony should not be able to change from one to another permanently.More or less a guess by the way. To be debated, I just don't see it happening however, considers that what they are being so tied to the overall sense of the world. I get the general feeling that Pony are very happy with themselves once they found themselves.... I could be wrong... though. Then again, there are pony with Trashcan as cutiemark...
    2. Since there are Mule, cross species breeding exist with Pony and Donkey, but very unlikely to have other type of cross breeding.
    3. None of them should be able to gain permanent wings or horn.Another guess, but I feel that ponies are used to being that way. Their psychology probably wouldn't lead them to be envious about not having wings or magic, as magic for ponies in general are just a bonus at best, and flying skillfully is not taken for granted.
    4. Alicorn should not occur without any major world known event.There are no evident to show more than four Alicorns in the show so far... probably means if there are, they are likely to be a result of something special. Hence I do not think they exist in the world in any major number, as in any number over 4, that is. It is entirely possible that there are more in the Royal family who does not do anything... but I don't think outside of Royalty, there would be any.
    5. They mostly use mouth or hoof, and sometime tail and wings to manipulate object. In the case where object magically stick to their hoof, they are most likely just metal horseshoe and magnet. Or simply cartoon physic without any specific focus or explanation. Sometime they can hold thing with their tail, but probably just to be "cartoony". They sometime do hold things with their hoof, most notable where Applejack holding Twilight over a cliff by the hoof. If we must explains it, they probably just locking onto each other's horseshoe, but reality probably is that it is still early in the show, they are not going to introduces complicated method for pony to holds each other hoof until the audience have enough time to understand that they are pony, they don't have hands. Also, in the show we see a lot of object designed for hand use, like tea cup with handle far too small for any hoof. Knife and Forks in cutie marks that are impossible for hoof to use... etc etc. They probably just shaped that way because they don't want to confuse the audience with what they are.
    6. Ponies are overall very tough. Hard to injury and heal quickly.Twilight, meet Anvil. Rainbow, meet ground.
    7. They probably live to hundreds of year, like human.Twilight Sparkle: "No Spike, Ponyville was started by Earth ponies, so for hundreds of years they've never used magic to clean up winter. It's traditional." Granny Smith: "Long ago, when I was a little pony, things were very different here in Ponyville, 'cause there was no Ponyville!" It is impossible for Twilight to mix up important fact like this, nor is it possible for Cheerlie, who is a teacher, to not notices mistake... somewhat up to debate perhaps, but Granny is probably very old, like, 100+ years old.
    8. It seems that all ponies probably possess some sort of 'passive magic' that relates to their type. Unicorn have magic, Pegasus have weather controlling / making capbility (however unicorn do have spell to make a mini thunder cloud as demonstrated by Trixie, and Earth pony can grows food. In S2:E11 Spike says that only the Earth Ponies could grow food. On the surface, it is unreasonable to assume that only an Earth pony could put a seed in the ground and have it turn into food, but it IS reasonable to assume that Earth pony magic lends itself to growing things in various ways, or interacting with animals, etc. Pegasai controlling weather is an example of passive magic itself, since they're not constructed differently than any other ponies, and in fact are shown generally to be more durable than some.
    9. They get born, they fall in love, they do get sick, and they do die.There is an actual funeral in the show, also there are no shortage of sickness... however, they are mostly humorous in nature
      1. Wings specific :rainbowderp:
      2. Wings are mostly only usable as "holding" things by pinning it against their body, the individual tips are not finger, they are feathers, and cannot do any fine movement.We have not seem them using wings as any limbs so far.
      3. Wings can be damaged, and have bones inside. Rainbow showed us that quite well with the x-ray in the hospital.
      4. They probably do not have leathery wings. Even if they do, they are not considered particularly rare. The Guards with Luna pulling the carriage are probably just make-ups. We can see that Luna also have festive feature like how her cloak disappeared into bats. It is likely that Luna already know you are supposed to dress up on Nightmare night, she simply doesn't know the full extent of the story behind Nightmare night. However, one can easily debates that the wings of this type are not seem as often because they are noctourfnal type of Pegasus. However, what is most likely true, is that they are probably not particularly special if they do exist, and probably are not treated any different than normal pegasus.
      5. Uses of wings are not a natural thing once grow up, they have to practice. However instinct sometime do take over when they are still a baby, like how baby can breath and drink at the same time but they lose that ability once they grow up in human.It seem evident that Scootaloo cannot fly, only hovers a little.
      6. They need to be ready for flight, probably something to do with body position. Sudden drop and throw can make them not able to fly despite being in the air and hurt them.Applejack launching RD into the air and she was not able to stop until she crash, same with Twilight holding RD in the air by the tail and when she releases her, RD just free fall.
      7. Pegasus Pony can't break sonic speed, except Rainbow Dash.Sonic Rainboom would not be a myth if it is more common. RD is very likely the only Pegasus alive who can do it.
      8. Wings have the potential to be sharp, as seem with Wonderbolt "mowing" off the Big Monstrous Spike's spikes... However this seem more like a gag to me. The part where the guard created an SFX sound with it, also sounded like a gag to me. Meaning we should not feature it in character overly. Use it as an afterthought is better.
      1. Horn specific :trixieleft:
      2. Horn is the source of their magic, no horn, no magic. Twilight was able to use magic to move the brush before noticing her horn is cursed. However, seeing the curse being fairly magical, it is entirely possible that it was actually not cursed UNTIL she see it.
      3. Horn is like nail/mane/tail, they grow continuously. Rarity have her horn filed at the spa, apparently, fairly regularly, if it does not grow, she cannot really afford to do that regularly.
      4. Can be fairly hard and sturdy Twilight broke through a gate with it in the cave made by Diamond dogs.
      5. Can be fairly sharp, and can poke right through book, which is actually incredibly difficult to do with any object in real life.Seem in Secret of My Excess when Twilight was distracted from her books sorting.
      6. Can be affected by sickness.see Poison joke
      7. Use of magic can be interrupted or blockedSee Shining Armor in S03E01, or how Sweetie Belle flicks Rarity's horn to interrupt her levitation spell.
      1. Mane / tail Specific
      2. Mane/tail can be multiple colored, and can be dyedTwilight mentioned dying mane... and Sweetie Belle did dye the mane of Carrot Top
      3. Might demonstrates their magical power (Aka Celestia's always sparkling and flowing, Nightmare Moon, literally cloud shaped).
  3. Magic :twilightblush:
    1. Most pony in general do not relies on magic on their day to day activity. Mostly a loose observation. Rarity's special talent is gem... and... well, it help her find gems. She doesn't really do anything special beside that, and breaking up tree branches into little trees.
    2. Most pony only know one or two magic spell specific to their specialty. Generally enchant what they already can do, rather than allow them to do something they can't normally do.
    3. Magic can charge an item, but need regularly recharged.We know that The Flim and Flam brother need to regularly charge their Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000.
    4. Magic generally do not stay long without a unicorn intervention.More of a logical conclusion then an observation.
    5. Magic are fairly difficult to understand. Does not necessary does what it meant to do and sometime just come and go as it please.See Rarity getting dragged away by her own magic without knowing what it is for.
    6. Magic probably can't help Pony heal. As hospital's medical staffs are all earth pony it seem.Zecora probably just happen to have a potion that can help Apple Bloom teeth and likely does not work for anything else.
    7. The application of magic are extremely vast, they can go from as little as lighting horn up to as big as curling the entire town of a magical effect.
    8. Work a little like corrupted wish, it does not get perfect interpretations of the caster's wish, it works at a very technical level and if the command was issued incorrectly it will have dire consequences.See Twilight's Come to life spell, and Want it need it spell. It does not do exactly what she wanted, it just does what it is supposed do. If Twilight didn't know ahead of time the consequence... well... tough.
    9. Some magic may not be turned off at will. See Come to life spell, and Want it need it spell.
    10. Require concentration. Sometime a lot of it.See where Twilight trying to turn rock and leaves into a Tuxedo
    11. Twilight doesn't do true teleportation.It is really more of a blink. Long distant teleportation probably are very draining or impossible.
    12. Teleport / blink are rare. Probably something very difficult.According to more resource, even Cadance can not do teleport / blink. Luna also have difficult with it in the Comic.
    13. Magic is not effective at healing. If at all.The changeling queen was able to heal Shining Armor's headache, but we did not know if the headache was created by her in the first place. Also, if there are magical healing. Twilight being second to none in magic, was quite a jerk to let Rainbow stuck for a week in the hospital while giving no magical help whatsoever.
    14. Most pony only know one or two spells outside of simple telekinesesSpike: "I thought unicorns were only supposed to have a little magic that matches their special talent." That likely suggest that Twilight is exceptional beside just her power, but also how many spells she can cast.
    15. Still a fairly common thing since unicorn have is still about 1/3 the population.
  4. Foals :sweetieunsure:
    1. They are delivered in Hospital, not by Stork anymore in G4.While Storks are not completely rule out as we will never see a natural baby birth in a Y7 show, it is highly unlikely at this point.
    2. Their colours are likely lottery with some tendency that related to family. That means it could basically be any colors from anypony but more likely toward resembling their family or theme... and seeing how Ponies couple do mix race, their race are also a complete lottery. Rarity and Sweet Belle do have some resemblance... but most other, like Filthy Rich and his daughter, Apple family... still have Apple theme, but Pinkie Pie's family is just kinda random.
    3. They might still carry some resemblance from their parent, but it is likely something only Pony can notice, like how human in general cannot tell horses / dolphin / etc of the same breed / color apart without spending a lot of time with horses. This is just a guess, again, all pony look pretty much the same shape and size beside for a gag, but that could also be animator being lazy.
    4. They can walk pretty much right away, but they take a while to start talking. Perhaps a few months.Another guess. But real foal do walk pretty much right away at birth.
    5. Their flying and magical ability might come and go but as they grow up, it might stops. Hence it is entirely possible that Ponies unicorn or Pegasus can do something when they were baby but cannot do any more once they grow up.Another guess, but real life human have similar issue. For example, again, the "Eat and drink at the same time" thing. Also, child have a much faster reflex then adult, and can see faster things up to thing that only flashed 1/1000 a second while adult cannot perform the same feat.
    6. Foals are also very intelligent, relatively speaking, even at a few months old they appear to speak nearly perfectly. Probably ready for school in just a year or two. See here for offical rule on their timeline.

Setting specific

  1. Society :coolphoto:
    1. Equestria is likely a loose dictatorship with voluntary democracy. Princesses are the overseer of the Country's operation, but most places operate fairly independently with their own rule, style, and possibly even culture.All of Equestria are very different city to city. Canterlot, Manehatten, Ponyville, Cloudsdale, Applesosa all seem pretty much unique as far as building, manner, and culture goes.
    2. Despite some suggestion of a female dominant country, probably equal among genders.There have been no inequality beside number.
    3. Probably equal among races, Earth Pony, Pegasus, or Unicorn should be fairly equal. The Royalties seem to be largely associated with Unicorns, but that might be more of a coincident as any type of pony have their own way to go up in society rank.Seeing that the "upper class" group consist of all types of pony very evenly despite Canterlot are known as a mostly Unicorn city.
    4. Probably have law, copyright, and patent system.Flim and Flam brother have their own invention where they are not worried too much about other ponies copying it by demonstrating it quite throughly... probably mean ponies in general do have some kind of patent system. Having so many books... there probably are copyright, and seeing there are concept of crime with office of Sheriff Silverstar and thief, mayor of town, etc... there probably are laws
    5. Probably have crime issue, as Ponies are not all good. There are good and bad ponies. Again, law and order required in the mild west. Justices might be a bit lose and mostly base on common consensus among town folks rather then a court and trial system.
    6. Most likely have government bureaucracy. What else would the Mayor do without one?
    7. As Earth Pony, Pegasus pony and Unicorn Pony actually are required to work together to survives, it is probably rare for them to be racistDoes not make it impossible, but it probably won't happen unless there are very good justification.
    8. Ponies probably do not live in Everfree forest.Pony in general live in a group... It is unlikely that they can survive the fairly hostile environment entirely on their own. However, this is up to debate. Though in my opinion Everfree Forest lose a lot of it's charm when there are Pony who can navigates it casually. I mean, seriously, Equestria is pretty safe already, we need some dangerous place! Oh the other hoof though, Everfree forest, without those dangerous creature, are not actually that dangerous. It is hard to know when those creatures are around, however.
    9. Everfree forest's weather changing is probably due to various magical plant there bringing the weather over, rather then just being like real life natural.Zap-apple tree BOUGHT weather changing into Ponyville over it's portion of the field, therefore, this logically stands.
    10. They probably do have military. However, their set up is hugely different then human.
      Royal guard, Court-martial, all material from the concept of military. However it does not appears to be a national guard, rather independent teams of law enforcement in a larger scale. As if they are any type of offensive group, they are probably going to be seemed at some point... like being sent to take care of a city wide infestation.
    11. Considering that they already matched Christmas, Valentine's day, and Halloween to the show. Most other human holiday probably should exist in Ponydom, like Mother's day, Father's day, Thanksgiving, Easters... Just that they are likely completely different to Human's one despite somehow ended up resembling each other.
    12. There are probably other language beside Equestrian.Gesundheit is German
    13. As far as we known, Alcohol consumption probably doesn't happen in Equestria. Salt, however, seem to be an identifical replacementThey replaced a normal pub with a salt pub in the show, showing the affect of dehydration through salt being very similar to intoxication.
  2. Technology :twilightoops:
    1. Their Technology level, beside entertainment related stuff, are around 1880 ~ 1920
    2. That means they do not have TV, Computer, CD player, internet, etcThere is a common misconception that they have computer. The devices in Twilight's basement are not computer, but are likely Electrocardiogram (click on the tooltip icon to freeze the tool tip so you can click on the link) which are invented in the late 18th century. Same with stuff like Vinyl record, Hydro Dam, X-Ray, telegraph. However, the Arcade and the DJ turntable might be different, but as for the Arcade, since nothing are show on the Arcade screen to suggest it is purely digital, it might be powered mechanically rather than relying on transistors. Same with DJ turntable, it might look new and fancy but nothing really stop one to be developed purely mechanically back in the early 19th. There simply wasn't any demand at that time.
    3. Their technology level is fairly different from Human, seeing that they have magic. Several things might never be need for them, like fax machine, personal air craft, battery (since they can just charge it with magic) though it is unlikely that their magic can create technology that their purely mechanical counterpart can't do. It probably just make the device more efficient. Not truly magical beyond reach of Technology.mostly a logical conclusion, if Magical item is powerful, common, and easy enough, they would be everywhere. The fact that obviously magical item are never saw on the show beside the Elements... the flying device for Tank, and the Squeezer... meaning that it is likely not easy to do and not long lasting enough to be a daily traded goods.
    4. That also means that most of their use of daily technology is scientific in nature. They rarely seem to have anything that purely relies on magic. As in... most of their device would work without magic, just not as powerful. Magic is serviced largely as an energy source rather than the main component.
    5. They probably mix up the two... magical or scientific. As in, they might not care whether it is magic or science that makes something works long as it works.
    6. They have exceptional knowledge about spaceWhat Twilight said about Meteor are pretty much dead on.
  3. School :twist:
    1. They are probably pretty serious about education.Beside the fact that it is a Y7 show and they would never make any attempt on shading bad light toward education... Pony in general seem to care more about their youth... and kids... love school, and think their teacher are awesome.
    2. Therefore, it is likely that educations are mandatory for all foals. It would be rare to have anypony who can't read.It is just my opinion, and this is just that it will fit the world better. I can't imagine any town not taking care of a foal in need. Even if they are orphan, it is likely that they will be taken care of under an all loving ruler who tend to ponies need quite regularly for thousands of years. Beside, ponies quite depends on each other to survives.
  4. Art :flutteryay:
    1. They love art! Modelling probably considered a performing art rather than fashion advertising. However, they do have ads modelling separately. Which suggest an ad agency, and suggest there are news associations...
    2. Wonderbolts racing probably considered as a performance art. There is no gambling atmosphere... however, that is most likely because it is a Y7 show. Side betting probably exists.
    3. They also do drawing.. sculpturing... there are probably a lot of arts and music, just about as much as human does.
  5. Sport :rainbowlaugh:
    1. Rodeo, Fencing, Curling, various racing and team sport like football, soccer, tennis, etc...
    2. Unknown if there are boxing or fighting sport, but seeing there are fencing, which are originated from sword fight, meaning there are likely sparing sport.
    3. In the show, they do use hoof as hand for most thing, but in reality they probably just do that to not confuse the audience by using mouth to hold things.
  6. Other :derpyt:
    1. They probably do have ghost. Not saying you should be one, but a magical world like this, ghost just seems fitting. However, they probably shouldn't haunt any house, as there are likely magic to get rid of them pretty easily... and judging from how Magic usually get rid of things... it won't be nice, and if they are ghost like any kinda ghost in ghost story... they probably should be smart enough to not bother ponies and stays in places well isolated from them.
    2. Posion joke and Zap Apple, and Heart desire shows us that plants can be magical, and Manticore, dragon, timberwolfs, eels, etc, show us that creature probably can be a little magical, and all kinds of monsters can be possible. Seeing that
    3. They are probably influenced by other country's culture, like French haute couture, Karate... it is unknown the exact origin however, as "French" in Ponydom could easily be just a city in Equestria.
    4. Except for mythical creatures (unicorns, Pegasi, griffons, dragons, etc.) and creatures made up for the show (diamond dogs), it seems that the only beings capable of speech in Equestria are hoofed animals. Ponies, cows, mules, donkeys, bison, goats, sheep... we've seen them all speak and all have hooves.It is generally known from the developer of the show that this interperation is accurate. That means non-hoofed animal can not speaks. Not all mythical and invented creatures can speak, howevr. Philomena didn't talk, nor did the cockatrice, timber wolves, or manticore.
    5. Non-hoofed animals may be smart enough to communicate in some non-verbal ways like Angel Bunny and the other pets
    6. Pony outside the Mane 6 are usually less pleasant.Sure, there are exception, but a few eps showed us how unpleasant and judgement, noisy, suck up, show off (as if Rainbow dash didn't already do that) but most important, have a sense of socioeconomic class warfare. They do look down on people who are less fortunate or whoever coming from a "less desirable" area of the country. However, Twilight being a socially awkward pony in Canterlot all her life, still managed to be completely nice and humble, shows us how different the Mane 6 is compare to the regular Canterlot ponies.

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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Kari Lightsworn » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:36 pm

Oh my, isn't this interesting~! Anything I don't bring up is because I probably agree and don't have anything to add.

Cutie Marks


I agree with all of it, but I'd like to add that, even if a pony knowingly enjoys and knows they are good at something, they won't get a cutie mark. There has to be a type of pride in their talent, a love of it that triggers it. This is mostly just my own assumption, as the story of the mane six getting their cutie marks could each have 'Proud of what they did' pegged into each one. I think so, at least.

Wings


The feathers might not be fingers, but from the movements we see from the three that stick out makes it seem like those are where the bones are, and thus could theoretically used as fingers. ...This is mostly me just trying to justify Kari using her's as fingers all the time. Maybe they can only be used as fingers if a pegasus practices at it a lot?

Mane/Tail


I don't really have anything to add or anything, I just wanna point out that you just suggested power makes manes and tails all glowy, flowy, and long. Celestia and Luna are constantly in Super Pony form, this is my new head canon. :pinkiehappy:

Foals


I don't think the colours are a complete lottery. Diamond Tiara might just greatly resemble her mother. The Apple family are all, well, apple coloured. The colours are likely just more persistent in pony genes than in humans, so the could inherit colours from farther back in line than we could. I also don't think the colours have to be in the same place as in the parents or predecessors. Pinkie Pie is, of course, a notable exception. Where the buck did her pink come from? Obviously, Discord tried to make her his new vessel, but failed, and thus her colouring, randomness, and abilities stem from Discord.

Sport


Or, perhaps, the ability to use their hooves in such ways for performance or art is a part of it, and thus a mark of skill.

That's about all I have for now!
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Tek Croon » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:20 am

Foals:
F: They are also very intelligent, relatively speaking, even at a few months old. Probably ready for school in just a year or two.

As evidenced earlier by Pipsqueak saying that this Nightmare Night WAS his first EVER. I'm convinced the only reason is that he was less than a year old.
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby MojitoJoe » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:42 pm

I think this is rather extensive and well thought out set of observations.

One to note that I just thought to add regarding tails specifically

Tails have been shown to be more dexterous then they are in nature. They can hold, manipulate and even support various degrees of weights. As seen from several ponies using their tails to "carry" something to AJ's ability to use the end of her tail to manipulate a lasso.
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby AppleTart » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:12 pm

Tek Croon wrote:Foals:
F: They are also very intelligent, relatively speaking, even at a few months old. Probably ready for school in just a year or two.

As evidenced earlier by Pipsqueak saying that this Nightmare Night WAS his first EVER. I'm convinced the only reason is that he was less than a year old.


I don't know about that, Nightmare Night might very well be a region specific event as Halloween is.
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Tek Croon » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:27 am

AppleTart wrote:
Tek Croon wrote:Foals:
F: They are also very intelligent, relatively speaking, even at a few months old. Probably ready for school in just a year or two.

As evidenced earlier by Pipsqueak saying that this Nightmare Night WAS his first EVER. I'm convinced the only reason is that he was less than a year old.


I don't know about that, Nightmare Night might very well be a region specific event as Halloween is.


Twilight tells Luna that it's one of the most important Celebrations in all of Equestria.
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Skyblaze » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:56 am

Tek Croon wrote:Foals:
F: They are also very intelligent, relatively speaking, even at a few months old. Probably ready for school in just a year or two.

As evidenced earlier by Pipsqueak saying that this Nightmare Night WAS his first EVER. I'm convinced the only reason is that he was less than a year old.


I think he's younger than most other foals on the show, given his size, but him saying this was his first Nightmare NIght doesn't have to mean he's less than a year old. It could just be that this is the first year his parents felt he was old enough to go out.
'But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: 'we're all mad here.'
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Skyblaze » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:10 am

Probably have crime issue, as Ponies are not all good. There are good and bad ponies.


There is crime in the world, but it's probably very rare. I don't doubt that crime exists, as Twilight Sparkle used the term "petty thievery" in Read It and Weep. If they didn't know crime, they probably wouldn't have terms for it and they certainly wouldn't need security guards. The Flim-Flam Brothers were scam artists. But as we've seen in the Hearthwarming episode, if ponies don't get along the Windigoes gain strength. For that reason alone, most ponies are probably reluctant to engage in anti-social behavior.

They have exceptional knowledge about space


And one pony was dressed as an astronaut on Nightmare Night. However, I doubt this means that they have real pony astronauts. After all, the concept of 'spacemen' was already common in fiction long before the space race of the 1950s and the moon missions of the 1960s.

Considering that they already matched Christmas, Valentine's day, and Halloween to the show. Most other human holiday probably should exist in Ponydom, like Mother's day, Father's day, Thanksgiving, Easters... Just that they are likely completely different to Human's one despite somehow ended up resembling each other.


Despite the Christmas-like decorations, Hearthwarming is more like American Thanksgiving. It's about weary travelers to a new land learning to get along and live together for mutual benefit. And like our Thanksgiving, the story of Hearthwarming might only be traditional lore rather than a depiction of actual events.
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Ayame_ExGoddess » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:26 pm

Tek Croon wrote:
AppleTart wrote:
Tek Croon wrote:Foals:
F: They are also very intelligent, relatively speaking, even at a few months old. Probably ready for school in just a year or two.

As evidenced earlier by Pipsqueak saying that this Nightmare Night WAS his first EVER. I'm convinced the only reason is that he was less than a year old.


I don't know about that, Nightmare Night might very well be a region specific event as Halloween is.


Twilight tells Luna that it's one of the most important Celebrations in all of Equestria.


It could just be that Twilight was trying to cheer Luna up given the circumstances.

Some notes:

I would like to say here that I keep seeing holidays being called 'region specific' where the meaning is supposed to be that holidays are specific to certain towns where the meaning should be that they are specific to certain regional cultures. If we assume that Equestria is actually a single kingdom which includes all the major cities we've seen, it's likely that given the advancement of cities, the availability of speedy, long distance travel (trains, flying chariots, airships, flight for the Pegasai), and the reliable kingdom-wide news and mail delivery systems that they would all celebrate the same major holidays. Local holidays have to have some significance to the area they are celebrated in. Winter Wrap-Up is a good example of a smaller, area-specific holiday, because Ponyville (as Twilight says) was founded by Earth Ponies so they don't use magic. Conversely, Nightmare Night is a good example of a more nationalized 'Equestrian' holiday, because Nightmare Night has to do with Nightmare Moon, who -until the previous year- had never been to Ponyville.

In regards to the 'no horn means no magic' thing, I think it should be noted that it seems that all ponies probably possess some sort of 'passive magic' that relates to their type. In S2:E11 Spike says that only the Earth Ponies could grow food. On the surface, it is unreasonable to assume that only an Earth pony could put a seed in the ground and have it turn into food, but it IS reasonable to assume that Earth pony magic lends itself to growing things in various ways, or interacting with animals, etc. Pegasai controlling weather is an example of passive magic itself, since they're not constructed differently than any other ponies, and in fact are shown generally to be more durable than some.

There's more but...meh. I'll wait for now.
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Mayday » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:33 pm

even if a pony knowingly enjoys and knows they are good at something, they won't get a cutie mark. There has to be a type of pride in their talent, a love of it that triggers it.


I think that is a good point, let me add it.

The feathers might not be fingers, but from the movements we see from the three that stick out makes it seem like those are where the bones are, and thus could theoretically used as fingers. ...This is mostly me just trying to justify Kari using her's as fingers all the time. Maybe they can only be used as fingers if a pegasus practices at it a lot?


I really don't agree with it as this seem more like an excuse to use digit, make Pegasus even more stands out then they already do, and beside that, the show really doesn't support that idea.... and is over all just not logical... they are obviously feathered birds wings, as Scootaloo's feather being plucked shows us. I can see them as useful as "chopsticks" perhaps?

I don't think the colours are a complete lottery.


Some what lottery with possible tendency, sure.

Twilight tells Luna that it's one of the most important Celebrations in all of Equestria.


Personally I think it is not likely for Twilight to use exaggeration to cheer somepony up, it isn't her personality to exaggerates unless it have to do with making herself crazy.

It could just be that this is the first year his parents felt he was old enough to go out.


this is likely though, it is not conclusive that Piqsqueak is only 1 year old.

I think it should be noted that it seems that all ponies probably possess some sort of 'passive magic' that relates to their type. In S2:E11 Spike says that only the Earth Ponies could grow food. On the surface, it is unreasonable to assume that only an Earth pony could put a seed in the ground and have it turn into food, but it IS reasonable to assume that Earth pony magic lends itself to growing things in various ways, or interacting with animals, etc. Pegasai controlling weather is an example of passive magic itself, since they're not constructed differently than any other ponies, and in fact are shown generally to be more durable than some.


That is a good point too. Let me add that.
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Kari Lightsworn » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:13 am

I can see them as useful as "chopsticks" perhaps?


Actually, that does make more sense. I'll be sure to keep this in mind.
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Skyblaze » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:09 am

Here's something else that I think bears stating:

Except for mythical creatures (unicorns, Pegasi, griffons, dragons, etc.) and creatures made up for the show (diamond dogs), it seems that the only beings capable of speech in Equestria are hoofed animals. Ponies, cows, mules, donkeys, bison, goats, sheep... we've seen them all speak and all have hooves. We've seen pigs on the show, but I don't recall at the moment if any of them have ever spoken. This is the reasoning I used to allow Bright Eyes and Clarice to speak. Deer have hooves.

Non-hoofed animals may be smart enough to communicate in some non-verbal ways (like Angel Bunny and the other pets), but in general true speech only comes with hooves. Magically giving a creature hooves doesn't automatically impart the ability of speech, either. Twlight Sparkle's mice-turned-horses in The Best Night Ever didn't say a word and still acted quite like mice.

Not all mythical and invented creatures can speak, howevr. Philomena didn't talk, nor did the cockatrice, timber wolves, or manticore.

In general, the rule appears to be that if it has hooves, it can talk. If it's mythical or made up, it may or may not be able to talk, depending on what best suits the feel of the animal. If it's a non-hoofed animal, it might be smart enough to communicate in some fashion but it can't actually talk.
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Whiteeyes » Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:40 pm

We only saw a goat at Fluttershy's place, and it didn't talk.
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Skyblaze » Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:51 pm

There's a goat in Feeling Pinkie Keen and The Best Night Ever.

Either he's a goat, or the most goat-like pony in Equestria. :derpyt:
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Whiteeyes » Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:56 pm

Did he talk?
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Skyblaze » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:04 pm

'But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Whiteeyes » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:34 pm

That's not a goat, that's a pony.
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Skyblaze » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:42 pm

Looks like a goat to me. I guess it's the ears and the beard.
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Whiteeyes » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:11 pm

Can we get a third party to figure this out?
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Barbarella » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:23 pm

Cutie mark is either covered or non-existent.
Beard is goat-like.
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....I just.....it could go either way.
This is quite the conundrum....
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Skyblaze » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:25 pm

We've seen ponies with beards and mustaches before, and his ears are probably flattened because of the hat. The hat also obscures whether or not he has horns.

I dunno... I always assumed he was a goat, but I could be wrong.
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Obsidian » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:28 pm

I think he's a pony. Based on the overall body shape and the fact he has normal irises (though if he is a goat that could be a stylistic choice). The only issue with him being a pony is, where is his mark? Maybe one of us should ask one of the dev team on DA or elsewhere.
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Kari Lightsworn » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:06 pm

I'm pretty sure that's the same guy that turns around and suddenly has a cutie mark on only one side. So... Maybe they made the episode before deciding cutie marks are on both sides?
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Mayday » Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:55 pm

Is it this one you are talking about? It is an earth pony for certain. http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Hayseed
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Re: Equestria Observations

Postby Skyblaze » Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:00 am

If the creator of the character calls it a pony, it's a pony. No issues for me!
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